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	<title>Comments on: MSDN Magazine Series: From Web Dev to RIA Dev</title>
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		<title>By: James Kovacs</title>
		<link>http://jameskovacs.com/2009/03/20/msdn-magazine-series-from-web-dev-to-ria-dev/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kovacs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Roman - Thanks for your interest. Yes, I am busily writing the series. I will be looking at client-side functionality quite a bit. So stay tuned. As for validation, I&#039;ve just started using xVal on a current project and really like it so far. xVal can do both client- and server-side validation. It is pluggable with a variety of client-side (jQuery Validation, ASP.NET Validation, ...) and server-side (System.ComponentModel.DataAnnotations, Castle.Validator , NHibernate.Validator, ...)

http://xval.codeplex.com/

We&#039;ll see if I can work it into the article series. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roman &#8211; Thanks for your interest. Yes, I am busily writing the series. I will be looking at client-side functionality quite a bit. So stay tuned. As for validation, I&#8217;ve just started using xVal on a current project and really like it so far. xVal can do both client- and server-side validation. It is pluggable with a variety of client-side (jQuery Validation, ASP.NET Validation, &#8230;) and server-side (System.ComponentModel.DataAnnotations, Castle.Validator , NHibernate.Validator, &#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="http://xval.codeplex.com/" rel="nofollow">http://xval.codeplex.com/</a></p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see if I can work it into the article series. <img src='http://jameskovacs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Roman Rozinov</title>
		<link>http://jameskovacs.com/2009/03/20/msdn-magazine-series-from-web-dev-to-ria-dev/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Roman Rozinov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking forward to the series. I understand that you are already writing the series, but I&#039;d love see some more practices in utilizing client-side functionality within ASP.Net MVC. For example, Steve Manchelloti showed how easy it is to plug in validation in business layer and return ruleviolation collection to the view, but what if we require validation happen on the server and returned via ajax response?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking forward to the series. I understand that you are already writing the series, but I&#8217;d love see some more practices in utilizing client-side functionality within ASP.Net MVC. For example, Steve Manchelloti showed how easy it is to plug in validation in business layer and return ruleviolation collection to the view, but what if we require validation happen on the server and returned via ajax response?</p>
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		<title>By: James Kovacs</title>
		<link>http://jameskovacs.com/2009/03/20/msdn-magazine-series-from-web-dev-to-ria-dev/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kovacs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave - I&#039;m working on re-architecting PetShop, but it is honestly too much work for this article series - plus it would be hard for me not to be overly negative. .NET PetShop contains A LOT of architecture anti-patterns, such as anemic domain layer, poor cohesion, very tight coupling between components, ... I would recommend against using PetShop as the architectural basis for any application - even though many people have.

@Scott - DNN would be a lot of work. Plus I wanted something more vanilla ASP.NET and DNN has that funky webpart framework of its own creation. (Admittedly the DNN webpart framework was created before webparts were added in .NET 2.0.) It&#039;s the same reason that I didn&#039;t select DasBlog since it uses a custom templating mechanism.

Based on a number of factors, I chose ScrewTurn Wiki for the MSDN article series. I hope that everyone enjoys the series, which should start appearing in a few weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave &#8211; I&#8217;m working on re-architecting PetShop, but it is honestly too much work for this article series &#8211; plus it would be hard for me not to be overly negative. .NET PetShop contains A LOT of architecture anti-patterns, such as anemic domain layer, poor cohesion, very tight coupling between components, &#8230; I would recommend against using PetShop as the architectural basis for any application &#8211; even though many people have.</p>
<p>@Scott &#8211; DNN would be a lot of work. Plus I wanted something more vanilla ASP.NET and DNN has that funky webpart framework of its own creation. (Admittedly the DNN webpart framework was created before webparts were added in .NET 2.0.) It&#8217;s the same reason that I didn&#8217;t select DasBlog since it uses a custom templating mechanism.</p>
<p>Based on a number of factors, I chose ScrewTurn Wiki for the MSDN article series. I hope that everyone enjoys the series, which should start appearing in a few weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wojan</title>
		<link>http://jameskovacs.com/2009/03/20/msdn-magazine-series-from-web-dev-to-ria-dev/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would be too much work, but DNN couldn&#039;t be more legacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be too much work, but DNN couldn&#8217;t be more legacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Carsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would go with the wiki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would go with the wiki</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this idea.  I looked at an overview of the PetShop architecture and I think it&#039;s something I could reasonably work with.  Although it does have complexity that would be a challenge for me.  For instance, I don&#039;t know much about SQL cache dependency or how the synchronous order placement (messaging) works so this would exercize my brain fairly well.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this idea.  I looked at an overview of the PetShop architecture and I think it&#8217;s something I could reasonably work with.  Although it does have complexity that would be a challenge for me.  For instance, I don&#8217;t know much about SQL cache dependency or how the synchronous order placement (messaging) works so this would exercize my brain fairly well.</p>
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